Messages posted by: morwalugi

picked up from the filmakers commentary in the special features section
of the dvd

the original dragons name was helogg

the man into dragon tf was supposed to feature humour as the man tf'd into a smaller dragon but budget
constraints nixed that

the peasants at the beginning are not the same as the peasants in the
people revert clip

its inspired by the star wars movies

the script is part of a trilogy

the leading man is a welsh horsewranger
who seems to have done some stunt work and other roles in the
finished product

this one was originally clocked in at about 2 hours 20 minutes
but budget constraints sent some
of it to the cutting room floor

years ago i'd acquired 20 or so cheap carbon pencils.had lots of paper and
ink so

well back in the end of 2005/beginning 2006 i'd been operating under the notion
that there was such as thing as a
'internet amateur tf clip' making community out there,ready to be served.the original dragoncrypt
was a cel archive using a complex indexing system so one series of cels could be attached to others,and i've added the video editor and
sound tracks in the 2 websites.it was essentially a mechano set so amateurs could make all the
little clips they wanted,modify the ones i'd stored in the cel archive and let the thing
develop.of course that baby was stillborn.

then after i'd seen a episode of sorcerous stabber orphen i got enthralled with its artistry
(which used a sophisticated 'poof' tf)
and spent another quarter year or so scanning and uploading about a
gigabytes worth of cels using a storyboard camera pov indexing system
featuring sea serpente iron boats thundering therough the waves and lots of non tf scene animations

still a dud as far as attracting the attention of any amateur tf videomakers

the killer came about a year later when i discovered videos i had slammed out in a hour with suggestive
fetish titles were attracting more viewers than the considerably technically and artistically
superior frostfang video.

that was pretty well the end of any hopes i'd had for the existence of a amateur tf clip community

http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/2udiskarray.html

I'd guess about $1,800 for a brand new one

What should you do?

Hmmm

1) do a little research on the science of lip reading
2) get artists and other to draw "Dragoniades " in various stages of speech( moving lips)
3)determine what cels are required to visually have "Dragoniades " lips form the word
"hello"
4)create a computer program ( a text to lip speech engine)so that when someone types
in the word "Hello" the engine will pull up the required sequence of "Dragoniade" speech
cels and produce a short animation of a animated "Dragoniade" saying the word "hello"
5)build it up from there

archive.org's last version of planetfur.com April 19 2008 post on teaser list

archive.org's last version of planetfur.com

April 19 2008 post on teaser list

(If I can pare it down to five lines or less it'll go back up,if not....)

Anyways had some free time so I sized the tf images to a common
base using the a)space between the bikini top and bottomb)the height of
Brian andc)the width between two cracks in the cave entrance
to get the percentages each tf image of the wife needed to be adjusted
to get them all to the same proportion size

Though the artist called it a short tf
I suspect that for a artist to do
a)get humour out of a taletype thats noted for angsty cursed tragedy
b)get all the characters in a believable dialog
c)put in the minor background details
d)hint at her growth spurt by the shadow that shows up above
the cave entrance as Brians mom hangs up on him at the bottom
of Page 2

was either one of those lucky coinciding of lots of stuff
or not quite as short as it looks at first glance

"Werechu and SSBdave can get all the gifts and requests they ask"

Not always.When Werechu asked me in 2007/2008 to do one of my little storyboard
videos with Wyrrach Ur in it,there wasn't a hope in hell I'd do the standard
"angry young man turns into a 400 foot tall Doom Dragon and exterminates humanity" plot

Instead Wyrrach Ur stays hidden cowering in the cave when the fed up norsemen
come to kill him off for good.Instead its Wyrrachs much smaller anthrodragon
sister Winnifred Urrach who stands in front of the cave entrance defending her
cowardly big brother from the Vikings.Wyrrachs only appearance in those
3 "Winnie the Ur" videos is as a pile of dust surrounded by catapult stones.

and as a sidenote the letter arrive near the middle/end of last week,so thank you

movie teen sorcery mercedes the evil cheerleader

book quest of the fair unknown author gerald morris blonde esmeree the cursed beauty

ShadyIMG wrote:Uhh...yeah. I guess I could request here. ^^; In Bartok the Magnificant, there's a part where the villainess, Ludmilla, drinks a potion to bring out her inner beauty, but it turns her into a dragon while she's singing and dancing, while not noticing till the end. I first noticed this years ago here on this site, only the sequence pics cause it wasn't available for download, and thought "Woah. Very nice." It got posted on Youtube, but one day I want to get it from here. Here's the Youtube link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i6ROv1JKfg

The potion brought out 10 times on the outside what was in the inside.'10' is
generally not a mystical number in fairytale dragon lore.'3' and '7' are.Though
I suppose 3+7= 10 might have been deliberate on the scriptwriters
part.

Far more interesting than Ludmilla's transformation is her interactions with the
prisoners in the dungeon whilst rearranging.Also note that her costume as the Regent has
its parallels on her dragon body.Even before she took the potion the 'dragon' inside her
had a way of expressing itself in her choice of jewellry and style of dress.

some probably know that the book and film 'green snake' was a metaphor for the takeover of hong kong by mainland china in 1999

so when i came across a short story from 1985 titled 'lazy dragon' in
great masterpieces of terror and the supernatural
i was intrigued with the tale of a
4th generation chinese american born in 2010ad coming back as a ghost in 2010bc china
and serving as a refuge for a lazy dragon hiding from a rather stern and murderous
master of dragons,who sends out hit dragons to off dragons caught awol on the job.

considering the short story's publication date its either a hong kong metaphor or alludes to social tensions of 1980's
mainland china

the refugee dragon in question can size shift and in the end is still defiant as the big guy hurls
a lightening bolt to destroy him

Contains minor transformations near the end.

Also referces the Alien movie

Far more importantly it references
-Moses leading his people to the Promised Land

-the Gulf War I video game mentality controversy

Might as well apply the Conservor Method to art creation
not to mention everything else

A 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of photo copy paper folded in half and scanned
in at 75 dpi yields a image roughly 640 x 480 dpi.Thus in a video editor
set to produce a 640 x 480 video clip theres no need to
alter the electronic any further.

If you're saving paper matter in large envelopes,save the ones
you get in the mail from business's and reuse them rather then going to
Staples and spending 10 - 25 cents on a new 9 x 12 envelopes.

If you're photocopying the art for personal use,get on the mailing list
of Notices to Mariners and request a paper version.The paper version
has about 1/3 of the 50 or so sheets being printed on one side,leaving the
other side for reuse.And the sheets work well in a HP 2020 AiO.At about
$5 for a 500 pack of copy paper,that'll save 10-20 cents.And the Notices
were free last time I looked.

If you have a stack of old postage that wasn't date stamped and hence is still
useable sans glue,a bit of flour,salt and water make a reasonable glue paste.

Assuming postal rules haven't changed,it used to be the policy
of Canada Post to send tax returns ontp Revenue Canada regardless
of whether it had correct or any postage on it.

And if you want to send your art to your Member of Parliament
the letters are postage free.
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(and for people complaining no ones making their kind of art,may I
suggest the following layout?
OP probably should have offered a explanation for why
no ones doing that type of art and why we should give
a damn about possible solutions to the percieved problem.
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Why are artists only doing shitty versions of the
Turner-Goya 1811 masterpiece
"Lambe and Percy Feeding Their Flock"

As we all know in 1810 Turner braved the
British blockade and Napoleonic forces so he
could meet Goya in Madrid with a proposal.
"Hey Frank,How'd ya like to team up with me
to do a painting?"

"Oh Yeah,bring it on "said Goya and the two
artists high 5'd it and decided to do the scene
where Reverend Lambe ,his daughter Philadephia
and Bishop Percy discover the "Laidly Worm o
Spindleston Haughs " ancient scrolls in a blocked
up cave where they'd been hidden 9 centuries
earlier along a rocky promotory overlooking
Eyemouth Harbour.

So the two artists pulled off their jackets,rolled
up their sleeves and got to work on this 9foot by
33 foot masterpiece of the ages.

Naturally word got around to the other artists and its
rumoured the French guy who did
"The Assassination of Robspierre " got a special
escort from the Emperor himself to lend a helping
hand to the other two.

There were the usual duels,fist fights,boozing into
the night as they struggled to bring the Percy Lambe
to perfection,but in the end it was done

Philadephia is seen crawling out of the cave,the scrolls
held forth to her eager dad,whilst behind Lambe stands
Percy,robes fluttering in the sea winds whilst holding
onto that hats of his so it doesn't blow away.Down below
we see the village of Eyemouth,with a small scene of
Lambe holding the scrolls aloft in a "I have returned"
pose surrounded by the grateful smugglers and
privateers(who need the tourists) and the Sun shines
gently upon the village like Gods own blessing.

So reasons modern artists don't do the Percy Lambe
right anymore

-they're a bit clueless on the Percy Lambe and its
depicted historical event?

-it would cost a fortune to reproduce it on the internet?

-they no longer possess the skills the old tymers had?

-they're waiting for the up front $1,000 downpayment on the
$100,000 commission fee?

Reasons people should give a damn

-the George Bush Iraq War Memorial fund is offering $10,000
grants to ex soldiers who do art in the "Tradition'

--The Afghan Womens Benevolence Society is doing a major
Hollywood blockbuster on Turner,Goya and the Percy Lambe.

-plenty of cross marketing /promotional potential

Solutions to possible problems modern artists might have in
doing a good job.

Problem 1
Solution 1

Problem 2
Solution 2

Problem 3
Solution 3

Any other solutions?
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( And onto less economic or successful marketing matters

Hokey Wolf's "Poached Yeggs" episode first premiered
on August 25 1961.

Cross Linkage trivia
The Flinstones first premiered in September 1960
and Daws Butler voiced Barney Rubble/Dino
When Hokey Wolf came out in December 1960 Hokey Wolf was
played by Daws Butler.
http://www.wingnuttoons.com/Flintstones.html
http://www.wingnuttoons.com/HokeyWolf.html

My guess would be that Daws Butler voiced the dragon in
Poaached Yeggs,and that the dragon drawings are in fact a modified
Flinstones Dino.)

Its been a awful long time since I've drawn S&D charts,so I'm sure there
are errors in these.

I assumed 2005-Contest 1,2009-Contest 2 however we all known that from Oct 2008
the global banking crisis hit home dramatically,so the 2005 charts
could just as easily be dated June 2008.

Impression I have is that tf artists are reluctant to drop the supply
line,(probably because they have alternative sources of income such as
teaching art at college)
except for a few $1 commissions on Transfur.So probably the
all important line is that demand line.Basically its either shifted
down along its entire length( no $$ in a commissioner-patrons pocket no matter
what suppliers offer the 'tf widget' for
or
theres a change in consumer tastes,where the elasticity of demand changed
and the demand line angled downwards (rich consumers buy wall ready art,
poor consumers buy tf widgets.

I'm inclined to think the economic model for the tf community goes something like this

Stage 1
the professional artist and the commissioner-patron

The final consumer-the commissioner patrons(demand line)
the professional artist( the supply line)

From what I gather most professional artists don't actually make a living at their
art but at adjacent professions,teaching art at the local college for eg.
So our art teacher sees commissioner-patrons waving $20,s and $50's and
enters the tf community and supplies the product.The money dries up and the
artist goes back to teaching art school.

Stage 2
places like this and the professional artist

Professional tf artists (demand line)
the Service Provider(supply line)

the professional artist,in order to get the commission from the
commissioner-patron,comes to places like this to do the research for the job.
Whether they pay/donate for the Service Providers service ulimately boils down
to the state of health of the commissioner-patron.If Joe Blow puts
his $50 back in the wallet the non-event will work its way down the chain.
Joe Blows gone,the artist goes back to teaching art school and the Service
Provider is offering a research service no longer required.

I'm not going to work out how contests fit into that
stage1/stage 2 model,but I'd guess for contests time=money
and that professional artists(now the demand line) where you
are the supplier of 'contest widgets'(the supply line) saw a major
downward shift in the available quantity of time they have
available to 'spend'
which would have the same effect on a S&D chart as getting rid of all
the $ in the commissioner-patrons wallets.

Main point being the demand line has shifted for tf widgets in a very real world way
for all the various stages of S&D charts involved in the economic model.
Less $,less time,less everything.Essentially you'd need to get commissioner-patrons
primed up with $20's and $50's again to reprime the pump.